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-To: Vasil Zlatanov <vasil.zlatanov@gmail.com>
-Subject: Re: [RP] Small Update rpws
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-Vasil Zlatanov <vasil.zlatanov@gmail.com> writes:
-
-> The "man" command produced the same output as the "perldoc" command which
-> requires a package to be installed.
-
-Yes, your rpws manpage is probably generated at build time on your
-OS.  The ratpoison package doesn't attempt to format nor install it.
-
-> rpwsm$i is not documented anywhere, as is the variable wspl. The user
-> would have to spend consirable time looking athe the source code of the
-> rpws script to identify them.
-
-Agreed, that's a good reason to add a "current" rpws command and leave
-wspl as an implementation detail.  Regarding rpwsm$i what I understood
-From=20your mail is that people couldn't find the appropriate keybinding,
-but it seems you care more about the aliases names.
-
-> rpws{n,p} is briefly mentioned I don't know what's weird.
-
-I was talking about rpwsm{n,p}.
-                        ^
-
-> Who in their sane minds would use 3 modifiers in combination with an
-> F# key to move a window to another workspace. That's just retarded and
-> badly designed.
-
-I agree that C-M-F$i *looks* more usable, but it isn't, really.  Here on
-OpenBSD Ctrl + Alt + F1 drops me to my first virtual console.  I believe
-that any sane Unix-like OS with virtual consoles will behave so.  If
-your OS is special you can take advantage of C-M-F$i in your rpws copy
-but this will not be committed.
-
-> This is the sole reason people are looking to change
-> that binding. When they read the manpage to figure out how to do that,
-> they find out that the "rpwsm#" is nowhere to be found.
-> That's why the man page should is updated to reflect on
-> the change. (2 modifiers is bad enough + we don't have to remove the
-> old bindings)
-
-So to sum up:
-=2D about C-M-F$i: nope.
-=2D documenting rpwsm$i aliases is a good thing, but then I don't find
-  a good reason not to document rpwsm{n,p} too.  Do you volunteer for
-  this small additional work?
-=2D rpws "current" would be nice to have
-=2D splitting your changes in several commits would be nicer to keep track
-  of changes.  You have no idea how annoying it is to read git log and
-  find monster commits that deal with unrelated stuff - Shawn
-  (ratpoison's main author) was really good at this. ;)
-  git makes it so much easier than many other scms, it would be a shame
-  not to take advantage of this.  Please also use a short description
-  for the subject of the commit (< 60 chars), and add a more detailed
-  explanation later if needed, separated from the subject by an empty
-  line.
-
-Thanks for your interest in improving rpws.
-
-Regards,
-
-> On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 04:35:45PM +0100, J=C3=A9r=C3=A9mie Courr=C3=A8ge=
-s-Anglas wrote:
->>=20
->> Hi,
->>=20
->> Vasil Zlatanov <vasil.zlatanov@gmail.com> writes:
->>=20
->> > I've been asked a few times on IRC about a command to move the current
->> > window to a selected workspace, which is undocemented for some reason.
->>=20
->> I think it is documented:
->>=20
->>         This creates 6 aliases rpws1, rpws2, etc. It also binds the keys=
- M-F1,
->>         M-F2, etc to each rpwsN alias. Moreover, rpwsn (Next) and rpwsp =
-(Prev)
->>         are created, and C-M-{Right,Left} are bound to rpws{n,p}. Full l=
-ist of
->>         keybindings created are:
->>=20
->>             M-F$i           Goto workspace $i
->>             C-M-Right       Goto Next workspace
->>             C-M-Left        Goto Prev workspace
->>             C-M-S-F$i       Move window to workspace $i
->>             C-M-greater     Move current window to next workspace
->>             C-M-less        Move current window to prev workspace
->>=20
->> So did those users actually read ''perldoc rpws''?  Because I think
->> that's the problem at stake here.
->>=20
->> Also:
->> - adding a wordy description for rpwsm$i without doing the same for
->>   rpwsm[np] looks weird to me.
->> - replacing the default keybindings is an unrelated change and means
->>   that users used to C-M-S-F$i will have to change their habits or
->>   modify rpws/their config.  This is not desirable, IMHO.
->>=20
->> > Addionaly I added an option that prints the current workspace which
->> > would be usefull for conky like configs.
->>=20
->> I'm not opposed to this (that would be a separate patch), but what's the
->> advantage over ratpoison -c "getenv wspl"?
->>=20
->> Cheers,
->>=20
->> > From 708fa69f48f10dcbefc20633f553db660be47b24 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
->> > From: Vasil Zlatanov <vasil.zlatanov@gmail.com>
->> > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 00:08:15 +0100
->> > Subject: [PATCH] Updated rpws to documents the "rpwsm$i" functionality=
-, made
->> >  it's bindings more sane and added an option "current" which prints the
->> >  current workspace.
->> >
->> > ---
->> >  contrib/rpws | 18 ++++++++++++++----
->> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
->> >
->> > diff --git a/contrib/rpws b/contrib/rpws
->> > index 49105c5..558fd1c 100755
->> > --- a/contrib/rpws
->> > +++ b/contrib/rpws
->> > @@ -1,5 +1,10 @@
->> >  #!/usr/bin/env perl
->> >=20=20
->> > +# Copyright (c) 2013 Vasil Zlatanov <vasil.zlatanov@gmail.com>
->> > +# All rights reserved. Modifications under same license as original s=
-cript.
->> > +# Changelog:
->> > +# 	Updated manpage and hotkeys
->> > +# 	Added argument current which outputs the current workspace.
->> >  #
->> >  # Copyright (c) 2009 Hatem Nassrat <hnassrat@gmail.com>
->> >  # All rights reserved. Modifications under same license as original s=
-cript.
->> > @@ -245,7 +250,7 @@ sub add_keys
->> >          # Switch Workspace
->> >          rp_call ( "definekey top M-F$i rpws$i" );
->> >          # Move Window to wrokspace
->> > -        rp_call ( "definekey top C-M-S-F$i rpwsm$i" );
->> > +        rp_call ( "definekey top C-M-F$i rpwsm$i" );
->> >      }
->> >      rp_call ( "definekey top C-M-Right rpwsn" );
->> >      rp_call ( "definekey top C-M-Left rpwsp" );
->> > @@ -270,6 +275,9 @@ if( $arg eq "help" ) {
->> >  } elsif( $arg eq "restore" ) {
->> >      my $filename =3D shift @ARGV;
->> >      ws_dumprestore($filename);
->> > +} elsif ( $arg eq "current" ) {
->> > +   my $cws =3D rp_call( "getenv wspl" );
->> > +   print "$cws";
->> >  } else {
->> >     open LOCK, ">>$lockfile" or die "Cannot open lockfile: $lockfile";
->> >     flock(LOCK, LOCK_EX);
->> > @@ -287,10 +295,11 @@ rpws - Implements multiple workspaces in ratpois=
-on
->> >   rpws init n [-k] [-a]  - setup rpws with n workspaces.
->> >                              -a sets up command aliases;
->> >                              -k sets up key bindings and aliases.
->> > + rpws n                 - switch to this workspace
->> >   rpws dump <fname>      - dumps the current layout to <fname>
->> >   rpws restore <fname>   - restores rpws workspaces from <fname>
->> > + rpws current           - print the number of the current workspace
->> >   rpws help              - this documentation
->> > - rpws n                 - switch to this workspace
->> >=20=20
->> >=20=20
->> >  =3Dhead1 DESCRIPTION
->> > @@ -306,14 +315,15 @@ Add the following line in ~/.ratpoisonrc
->> >       exec /path/to/rpws init 6 -k
->> >=20=20
->> >  This creates 6 aliases rpws1, rpws2, etc. It also binds the keys M-F1,
->> > -M-F2, etc to each rpwsN alias. Moreover, rpwsn (Next) and rpwsp (Prev=
-) are
->> > +M-F2, etc to each rpwsN alias. Aliases rpwsm1, rpwsm2, etc, are used =
-to
->> > +move the focused window to another workspace. Moreover, rpwsn (Next) =
-and rpwsp (Prev) are
->> >  created, and C-M-{Right,Left} are bound to rpws{n,p}. Full list of ke=
-ybindings
->> >  created are:
->> >=20=20
->> >      M-F$i           Goto workspace $i
->> >      C-M-Right       Goto Next workspace
->> >      C-M-Left        Goto Prev workspace
->> > -    C-M-S-F$i       Move window to workspace $i
->> > +    C-M-F$i         Move window to workspace $i
->> >      C-M-greater     Move current window to next workspace
->> >      C-M-less        Move current window to prev workspace
->>=20
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